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June 14, 2007
Inside With: Leo Allen
By: Eliot Glazer
Leo Allen, a somewhat private writer and comedian, has been a fixture in the New York comedy scene for years, both as a solo performer and with his partner, Eric Slovin. After appearing in Comedy Central specials and having spent several years as a writer at Saturday Night Live (where he and Eric so kindly took me under their wing, so to speak, when I was the ultimate comedy nerd intern), Leo has returned to his roots onstage, performing stand-up both locally and on national tours with Eugene Mirman, Michael Showalter, and Demetri Martin. I recently met up him at Rififi, where he had just performed in At Night With Gabe & Jenny.
Leo, how did you get into comedy?
After school [at Temple University], I lived in Israel for about nine months before moving to New York (well, Hoboken) with some friends. They were going to acting school and I just had shitty jobs. And after about a year, I started to go to open mics. And I just kept going over and over again. I did anywhere between 3 and 15 gigs a week.
Tell me how you met Eric [Slovin of "Slovin and Allen"] and how you hooked up as writing partners.
We met at an open mic. When you start doing stand-up, you realize there's a core group of people who you see all the time, and then we just did a lot of improv. [In stand-up], you're waiting around so much and we had all these ideas. So we did things here and there, and then finally decided to do a full-length show. We would do these hour-long shows, and we made a pilot for FX [called The Slovin and Allen Television Program]. We had a bunch of writing jobs, and a little stuff here and there. We did Edinburgh and then we had a Comedy Central special in 2001.
How did you become writers at SNL?
We were in a midnight showcase at the old UCBT. A lot of people did it, and I think it was [a search] for new cast members. Everybody got to do about 10 or 15 minutes, so we did 3 quick bits. And we found out six months later.
So you did three seasons at SNL (from '01 to '05). What was the experience like?
Well, there are deadlines and you have to produce stuff and crank stuff out at a certain time at a certain level, which was very much a valuable education. We were really disciplined. Why would you write a sketch if you didn't have to hand it in or perform it? But, eventually, you know, we missed performing live.
Was it a challenge to go from writing for yourselves--which I would dare to call "vaudevillian"--to writing for others in a different format?
I think that, after a while, we wanted to do bits that were more presentational and fun rather than sketches. We evolved everything into a sort of heightened version of ourselves through wacky characters. Working at SNL is different for different people, but it was still fun and we learned a lot.
You mentioned in your set tonight that you're clueless about pop culture, but at SNL a considerable amount of the show is driven by that content. In your solo work, you and Eric rarely, if ever, focus on pop culture. Did that ever pose a challenge?
Luckily, we supplied the alternative to that and did our own thing. We already had our voice when we got there. I feel like parodying something that's already awful is not really interesting.
So you've been doing stand-up for the past few years now?
Yeah. It was very hard to do stand-up [while I was an SNL writer]. You have to do it a few times a week, so I didn't have any chance to get better at it. It was very hard to keep up then.
But now you've been able to dedicated yourself to it more than ever. You toured recently with Eugene Mirman and Michael Showalter, as well as with Demitri Martin on another tour.
Touring was great. It afforded me the opportunity to do a 20-minute or half hour set rather than the 8-to-12 minutes you get in New York. So I definitely learned a lot, and now I'm going to be doing my own half-hour comedy special for Comedy Central, so I think I'll be able to continue getting better, just being able to talk to an audience.
How did you find the reception on a national tour with comics who are largely considered "nontraditional?"
Well, with Demetri, The Daily Show [on which he serves as the "Trandspotting" reporter] is very powerful, so we drew audiences who knew what they wanted to hear. We had great crowds. It's like being in a band. That what's weird about it: you go to a comedy club where it should appeal to everybody. Maybe it should, but you wouldn't have a club that's like, "The Music Club" that hosts Death Cab For Cutie one minute and Metallica the next. When it comes down to it, I think your job is to do the best you can do to the best of your ability and hope that people like it.
What is your process for writing stand-up? Where do you find material?
I take notes and try to avoid things anybody else talks about because it just gets boring. You try stuff, and if it works, it works. I think I try to do stuff that's not going to make me feel bad about myself. I don't feel comfortable being like, "This sucks and here's why!" or "Fuck Cher! Look at her and her stupid hair!" That just makes me want to kill myself. And I try to talk about something emotional on some level, even if it's just silly and makes me laugh. I think it's important to talk about stuff that's interesting to you. That's the end goal: to talk about something everyone can relate to, but not in that way that's like, "Ooh, everyone picks their nose!" If it's honest, people respond.
What's next for Leopold Allen?
Eric and I are writing a movie and making a series of shorts for Super Deluxe. We'd like to do another stage show, but the problem is that it's very time-consuming. I'd like to write a book and continue writing. I like to work on stuff with people I like and admire. Personally, I'm just trying to become a really, really good stand-up which I believe is the hardest thing to do. That's always been the goal.
All photos courtesy of Anya Garrett.
Posted by The Apiary at June 14, 2007 1:52 PM
Comments
neat!
Posted by: keith h. at June 14, 2007 2:25 PM
Leo Allen is a gracious man and a very funny comedian. Nice interview Eliot.
Posted by: Billy at June 14, 2007 3:16 PM
I just saw his stand up special on Comedy Central. he seems like a really cool, down to earth person I wouldn't mind hanging out with who is also funny. I hope to see more of him.
Posted by: Sara at January 6, 2009 12:44 PM



